Comics, publishing, storytelling. 2020 Award at the London Centre for Book Arts.
Esther_mcmanus@hotmail.co.uk
esthermcmanus.co.uk
- Background as a printer. How I approach shaping the message and meaning. Interested in production process and how audience engages with it.
- Skilled jobs, workshops, distribution and consumption and the relationships that occurs because of these objects.
- Roles are not clearly defines of author/maker. Audience, publisher and we can become all of them.
- Illustration and print, conducting research. Undertake quite a range of work. People and places.
- I graduated 10 years ago. Print and print finishing at London Centre for book arts and teach elsewhere, undertake commissions.
- I've always been working on my own comics and research and those things are always taking over as personal projects. By working on what you want to make, people will approach you for that.
- I was approached by Peter Jones at the University of London, in the history department, who had seen scenes of maps with stories I'd done. He approached me to work with him and another in an academic library. Papers, books, essays. They wanted to look into history for homeless men and women and wanted to work with an illustrator to bring together and communicate information in a new way. Believed in the eloquence of images. Audience can experience and feel in a poetic way rather than in an academic text.
- I worked with this very big academic taxed by an academic publishing. It was £80 for the book or £20 to download each chapter. That is not going to come into most peoples' lives and is not accessible.
- He pays a lot of attention to the text and the extra text room elements and what message we can learn about what we were to experience.
- Images, layout, materials of the scene.
- He couldn't explore it in a meaningful way in his academic text.
- You learn something through working.
- Even though we work in different specialisms, we developed a shared language.
- Archival research of homeless people in the Senate house library and archives and records.
- Strange big book of pamphlets down together in one book. Range of materials. What kind of sources record homelessness, how are they recording, how are vagrants described? As criminals. Who is saying these things?
- Criminal records, walking records, become visible, document pamphlets, conditions of migrant labourers, reports about vagrancy.
- When examining, I had to start thinking about what I wanted to do with this information? How do I want to present it?
- Legal judgements or moral judgements of the time.
- How people give accounts of themselves and others. Emic, Etic. (Etic: relating to or denoting an approach to the study or description of a particular language or culture that is general, non-structural, and objective in its perspective.) objectivity. Cultural insiders and outsiders can produce accounts of their culture. Emic - about themselves in their own terms. Etic: interpretations from outsiders expressed in terms or forms not set by the group.
- Interesting way of how voice could be used/could be featured in the publication. What would my voice be like? Even when not making a loud voice, the things are from my position.
- Public walk that James Greenwood took in the "On Tramp" book. He dressed as a tramp to move across the country and then turn into a paperback book. Following the great North Road. We did to Stevenage to Hitchin. With local residents or a historians or people interested in 19th century literature.
- People had different perspectives and contexts and valued expertise. My interest to see what clues could be picked up in the landscape. The distances we were taking. Understanding the routes and lives.
- Group writing activity to reflect in language on the things we absorbed. How did people communicate what they saw? Some of that was used in the publication.
- My role was to piece things together for a nonspecialist audience.
- In the pamphlet I wanted people to see the landscape. Any time frame and contemporary but also to incorporate the vagrant and tramp of old and from the archives and the 19th-century book. To bring in contemporary scholarship and journalism but to also bring in the audiences' experiences. Logical, clear, argument, image-based approach allows stillness and space.
- Which physical materials? Made with cheap materials. Sugar paper similar to what was in the archives. Grotty stock. Portable, pocket sized, relationship with audience with original text.
- Bring something to the text, and a meaning, legitimised a scholarship academic form. As opposed to something more tangible.
- Unique access as someone not studying at this institution.
- British library and Mayday rooms, women's library, women's art library. Access to really old books, zines, pamphlets. Elaborate way to access archives.
- I don't think you need to access a special collection or archive. I'm just interested in archives but it can be what's around you. Collected ephemera can be a personal archive.
- MA practice – looked at historic printing, physical forms, and experiences they communicate. What the form communicates.
- I'm interested in how archives do the same thing and how they communicate the time.
- "Textures of feminist publishing"
- Being in the archive itself – it's one thing to experience things as they are and as they happened, and another to be in the archive looking into that window. It's strange seeing addresses that are familiar to me and then ones that are less obvious to me. Handling the same papers that people did in the past. These people are similar in many ways. We want the same things. Strange relationship to time. Eager to keep exploring in my work.
- Felt very contemporary. Time is an abstract concept. How that could be told. Feel and experience some of these things. Comics, things happening across time. Physical book form. Conventional and flexibility.
- Comics and illustration can be effective in communicating these things, rather than text. Visible solidarities.
- Comics are good at showing relationships to time.
- Work extending up to the present and future.
- The hands of the researcher is always present to show that I'm always there.
- I got quite stuck in March because of Covid and is accessing archives.
- How soon is now? The book of Marjorie Kemp. Carolin Dinshaw. The Me is Me. Hope Allen.
- Working on the manuscript that was unearthed. Interested in hope. Hope Allen. Intrigued by this work.
- Reading books, bits of Chelsea, looking around, drawing, connections in the landscape. Connections on angles. Exciting to go on location. Architecture of the time.
- Experiments with comics and how to show objects across time represented visually. Relationship with people like me showing history and contemporary people and narrative and imagination.
- Effective attachments, latch on sympathetic, contemporary person in our minds.
- Enjoy listening to podcasts about how history is just the same as the present.
- "Between friends "comic. Feedback made things seem more compelling. It wasn't an interest before but now I can see it. Emotional and personal level.
- Hope to communicate. Always thinking about the audience and how they access the work and respond to it.
- Institute for historical research.
- Making personal work in a passionate and joyful. Ultimately I think my experience of making things is a good thing but often I feel keenly work on something out of my grasp and never know how well it will go. So I want to improve what isn't going well. Doubt, frustration, but still satisfying in some way. Drawing is joyful but ideas and subjects and my passions keep it interesting. Whether commissioned or personal work
- Doubt is minimised because someone else sees its worth when commissioned.
- I'm not personally a big collector of comics but I enjoy engaging with them. Comics are stimulating and joyful.
- Physical materials, interacting, interactivity, that someone has hand made. There is something very human that I respond to. Analog processes are fascinating to me because they are laborious.
- You don't have to make a book by hands. It can become collaborative. Then it's significant and social. So many businesses, skills, industries, can operate together, human labour and specialisms, meaningful. Video that eloquently shows the typesetting of the last of the New York Times. Meaningful. Showing in the work that I make through the attention. Skill sharing, materials, equipment. Living to make. Decisions on what I choose for reasons.
- Insiders and outsiders. Missing something and not understanding is inevitable when communicating. Misinterpreting. Because you're coming from your own position. I have a responsibility and I feel that keenly.
Reflection of today's visiting lecture:
Lots of interesting points raised during today's session including thinking about the research that we are obtaining, critiquing it, being mindful of where it comes from, and how to present it in a meaningful visual way. This ties in directly with the work I'm doing with my dissertation. I learned of the words emic and etic and their definitions. Parts of this were really poignant especially when talking about the archives and holding printed objects that others had at different points in time. We are all human and all have the same wants and needs that can be felt and reconnected when holding an object from the past. I also briefly connected to the idea of analog processes being a labour of love, labourious, being an authentic voice. "Living to make" has left a certain impact.
I ran out of time to ask some questions but have emailed them over to Catrin and look forward to receiving a response.
Questions and answers from email:
Thanks for your questions yesterday, and apologies I didn't answer them before you had to shoot off.
Here are some answers, which I hope are of some interest. Feel free to shoot back a reply if you want to talk about any of this in more depth!
Very best wishes,
Esther
When you have gathered information from people and places, what is your next step in the process to visualising your research? Do you make roughs and thumbnails? Do you just start making from ideas?
I take a while to digest my research in archives/locations and build up a picture of all the interests I have within a specific project. I think it’s worth taking some time to get clarity on how I might approach it and start setting some parameters.
Generally right at the beginning (when I have the least clarity), I gather notes and archival or textual research and essentially make a big mind map with scraps of text and small sketches. Seeing everything together really helps me. I also keep some text documents readily available so I can constantly refine some short texts (or even bullet points) about what the project is ‘about’. At the same time I start making small layouts or compositions and reflect on how successfully they match up with my intentions for the project.
I try to draw and visualise things as soon as I can, and also consider whether my research suggests specific book structures or materials. I find it important to make images and not get bogged down in reading texts/making notes! These initial sketches and ideas will probably not end up in the final work, but they’re essential for informing where the project will take me. Roughs and thumbnails are the only way I can understand the material I’ve gathered and how different elements have visual sympathies with each other, so I make countless rough layouts on large sheets of paper. Often I’ll scan those and play with the compositions digitally to tweak them more easily. After a few rounds of doing this, refining as I go, I'll generally have a good sense of what some final artwork might look like.
Have you ever reached dead ends in your archival research and how do you tackle those?
Yes, it’s very easy to get overwhelmed and confused in archives. There is so much material, so it’s really hard to know where to start, what to focus on, and when to stop! There’s always the fear that you’ve missed something important. I’ve found that taking time to read and reflect on archival research, letting some of that intensity of being in the archive cool off, can be a good way to assess what I want to respond to from my research.
I’ve never really found a ‘dead end’ in an archive as there’s always something there, even if it’s not what I expected. Spending time with a collection has always led me somewhere, and I’m now accustomed to the fact that this is often out of my control! It’s impossible to predict what you’ll find, so I try not to approach with too many expectations. Being flexible and open to what you’ll find is maybe a good way to tackle that uncertainty.